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Old 03-14-2011, 01:31 PM
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Social Security is not an entitlement program, it is paid for by those who work.

This is a recent letter to the editor. I do believe he nailed this issue. Wish the folk in Washington would listen.

Protect Social Security
March 13, 2011

Our political ritual of "he says-I say" is about over, thank goodness. What lies ahead are gigantic problems of energy, health care and retirement monies. The president has to have the guts enough to put a five-year moratorium on health care costs with maybe a non-partisan, five- or seven-member panel to adjudicate problems with a consensus of cost or savings with transparency of the utmost concern.

Retirement income from Social Security should be a basic. First and foremost, the 535 thieves that we elect to Congress need to face the fact that money from the American worker that is put into the fund is not for their use in any way, shape or form; not even be able to borrow from, which is what all economists figure in any plan put forth to solve a fiscal crisis of the government. Instead of preaching crucifixion of Social Security, Congress should be talking salvation.

Social Security is not an entitlement. It is completely paid for by workers and their employer. Social Security should never be on the table during any deficit reduction program. One more thing: in the past Congress has borrowed $2.5 trillion from the Social Security Trust Fund. That's trillion, and it was 100 percent workers' money.

A misconception that is rarely mentioned is your Social Security money is lost if something happens to the wage earner. Nothing is further from the truth. If you're paying into the Social Security fund, your immediate family is cared for by benefits. If you do not have your own family, then the nearest heir in your family tree shares with others if that be the case all the monies you paid into the Social Security fund. Only a small portion of Social Security payees ever die and have no one to leave funds. Benefits from your share of paying into the fund are usually drawn out within five years or less upon retiring.

The real problem is "Congress" ever dipping into, robbing the fund for idiotic pet projects. A Congressional amendment making a seven-member, non-partisan committee with control and oversight of Social Security needs to be passed. In 10 or 15 years, with Congress out of the picture, Social Security could be tweaked and improved every five years as the impartial managers bring forth changes. This being only an up or down vote from Congress - no changes allowed.

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Old 03-19-2011, 07:58 AM
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Re: Social Security is not an entitlement program, it is paid for by those who work.

This borrowing was started by Johnson back in the 60's to pay for Vietnam war so the folks would not freak out over the true costs of the war. Once the cookie jar was opened every congress since has dipped in. Even those who tout the "balanced" budgets of certain time spans don't realize the money we paid in was never put back.
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Re: Social Security is not an entitlement program, it is paid for by those who work.

Look! It’s all very well to criticize from the sidelines, but who’s gonna pay for the plush office carpets, and the secretary’s expenses on the Hawaiian trip (an essential er… ambassadorial study on how well the locals interact with tourists)?

Who will pay for the late night suppers of Caviar and Chateau La Mondotte Saint-Emilion 1996? How will these poor put upon servants get from the dining tables of their plush hotels to the nightclub two blocks down, at 2300hrs, at if there is no chauffeur driven cadillacs? Or, who’s gonna foot the bill for this years four by four run-around?

These are all essential items that are necessary for these individuals to be able do their jobs to the best of er… our abilities. Now stop moaning and pass the begging bowl around, it’s needed for all those poor sinners who work 16 hours a day, and who are getting paid slightly less than our wonderful legislators who are doing their level best to lick the trough clean.

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Re: Social Security is not an entitlement program, it is paid for by those who work.

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Look! It’s all very well to criticize from the sidelines, but who’s gonna pay for the plush office carpets, and the secretary’s expenses on the Hawaiian trip (an essential er… ambassadorial study on how well the locals interact with tourists)?

Who will pay for the late night suppers of Caviar and Chateau La Mondotte Saint-Emilion 1996? How will these poor put upon servants get from the dining tables of their plush hotels to the nightclub two blocks down, at 2300hrs, at if there is no chauffeur driven cadillacs? Or, who’s gonna foot the bill for this years four by four run-around?

These are all essential items that are necessary for these individuals to be able do their jobs to the best of er… our abilities. Now stop moaning and pass the begging bowl around, it’s needed for all those poor sinners who work 16 hours a day, and who are getting paid slightly less than our wonderful legislators who are doing their level best to lick the trough clean.

Exactly. But the sheeple allow it.
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Exactly. But the sheeple allow it.
Technically yeah, we allow it. Partially because we know of no way to stop it. Our power is so limited. So we don't reelect the incumbent, what happens? The good ole boys & girls show the rookie 'how things work'. Same stuff different suit.
Honestly, I don't care if every congressmen, supreme court justice and president and all his presidential staff were changed out to new blood in the long run I do not believe anything would change. Power corrupts.
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Re: Social Security is not an entitlement program, it is paid for by those who work.

Dang! You got there before me Doc, lol...

Yes, and the reasons are as follows:

40% of the people probably don’t know about it. (One can blame that on the innovative and manipulative minds of those who rule, and the state of the education system). 20%of the people probably do realize it, but don’t know what to do about it. 10% of the people do know about it but are apathetic, unless it interferes with their personal space, time or pleasure.

10% of the people not only know about it but are the very politicians and their satellites who contribute to and are complicit in it, so they are not gonna rock the gravy boat; and finally, 20% of the people know about it and desperately want to do something about it but are mindful of the ever growing legislation which strips them of their rights to demonstrate their dissatisfaction, and even criminalize them for believing that they have the right to call these politicians to account for themselves, and who act upon those rights.

For example: In England many dissenters refuse to pay an annual fee for watching the BBC. It is a criminal offence not to pay it, and many are imprisoned for such and fined hefty sums, whilst the rest of the world is able to view BBC for free… If one’s garbage lid does not close properly, in some cases by just an inch or so, one can fined heavily, and also automatically incurs a criminal record for such an ‘offence.’

Just as in the States such examples of stupidity occur prolifically, as well as all over the world; and things are getting worse…

As you say, ‘sheeple’ are letting our rulers get away with more and more; are allowing them far too much power and freedom to do just as they like. They have become a law unto themselves, and take full advantage of their status and privilege. But, what actually can the sheeple do? Because, whichever party is in power, it wouldn’t make a scrap of difference to what we, the electors want, or voted for.
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